Thursday, April 10, 2014
Blog Post #2 due on Monday, 4/14 by 8 am
Select one to two clues that you've noted in your clue tracker. Predict if they are actual clues or simply red herrings. Please identify the clue (quote from the text), the page number, and detailed justification of why you think it is a clue or red herring. Comment on a classmate's post. Use the rubric to make sure you get full credit.
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1. In my clue tracker I have found that Theo is playing chess with someone in the mansion and that Sydelle is wearing purple waves. I think that these clues are red herrings because it is hard to find the mistake, killer, or bomber if you might be playing chess with one, and the part when Sydelle was wearing purple waves it reminded me of those little boys when one died and the other said purple waves.
ReplyDeleteI could argue that the purple waves is just what she wanted to wear.
Deleteplease explain mor about your thnking
I agree with Gerardo because she may have been wearing the purple dress with a wavy pattern but that dose not make her a killer.
DeleteI agree with Nathan she could have just wanted to wear purple waves. She just loves crazy clothes.
DeleteI agree with Gerardo because in my belief i think that Sydelle is not the one who repeats purple waves all the time. I would like to add on to Gerardo's by saying she can say other words and not just purple waves.
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ReplyDeleteI think the person playing chess is the ghost of Sam Westing
ReplyDeletebecause it said that he was a master of chess. That could be a clue
I think crow was the murder because she was guilty of something. That also could be a clue.
Anthony, i agree with you because crow was guilty of something but i think you should say what she is guilty of.
DeleteAnthony, I agree with you about Crow being the murderer. Can you expand more on why you think she is the killer? Can you also expand your thinking on the part about the ghost playing chess with Theo?
DeleteAnthony, I agree with you but we obviously read that she was guilty of something. Where is the quote from the text supports the notion that she has done something wrong? Can you please expand on your thinking for both of your analogies?
DeleteAnthony I agree with you, but logically how can a ghost play chess. Like what Harley said, you should add some justification and evidence to both of them.
DeleteAnthony, I respectfully disagree with you because in this book Ellen Raskin is trying to keep the story as realistic as it can be and there is no ghost in real life. Maybe Theo was playing with one of the tenants or E.J Plum because they where the only people there.
DeleteAndrew W., how do we know that Raskin is trying to keep the story realistic? She might throw in a couple ghosts later on, we do not know. Just because it is a mystery novel does not mean that it has to be realistic. We have only read up to the end of chapter seven, and that is only the beginning.
DeleteAntony I agree with because someone or something is moving those pieces but it's maybe a person that hides and probably comes and moves and go hides again or it is the ghost Mr. Westing.Also your right crow is guilty of something.
DeleteAnthony, I respectfully disagree with you. Just because Sam Westing was a master at chess, doesn't mean he could possibly be the one playing. Andrew W., I respectfully disagree with you too on your comment for Anthony because you, (I don't think), have any proof that ghosts are real or maybe the aren't, but it could be the spirit of Sam Westing. I know spirits are real because since we are all catholics, we all believe in the Holy Spirit. That is why I respectfully disagree with Anthony, and Andrew W.
DeleteAnthony, I agree with you that Crow might be the killer because she is guilty of some stuff but can you give some more evidence of how she could be the killer.
DeleteAnthony, I also respectfully disagree with you when you said that the ghost of Sam Westing is playing chess because he is the master of chess. I respectfully disagree with you because I believe that someone else was playing with him because I think that there are no ghosts in this book in my opinion.
DeleteOne example of a red herring in the beginning of the book was when Sydelle Pulaski was wearing a dress with “purple waves.” I know it is a red herring because she probably just wanted to get noticed by people. Her pretending to break her leg so she could get crutches, her wavy patterned purple dress, and when she avoided the carpet to make noise are all examples of how she works to be noticed. Her wearing the purple wavy dress is a red herring because she was always trying to get noticed and this might just be one of her little schemes. According to the text “Her exaggerated hips were even more exaggerated by the wavy stripes of white on her purple dress."(Raskin Pg.27) In conclusion this clue is nothing but a red herring because when she wears the purple dress it is just another way for her to get noticed or just a usual dress she liked to wear.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you Nathan because she wants to get notice by other people. So she wears crazy clothes
DeleteNathan,
DeleteI agree with you in saying that this clue could possibly be a red herring. Sydelle could just be trying to draw attention to herself in order to get noticed. Therefore, she could be the mistake.
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ReplyDeleteI think Berthe Erica Crow could be Samual Westing’s murderer. According to the text it states “Someone (he could not tell if the person was a man or a woman) came out of the shadows on the lawn, unlocked the French doors, and disappeared into the Westing house. Someone with a limp.”[pg.9] The book says that Crow was kicked hard in the shin by Turtle. Crow had a corn removed that could have also caused her to limp. She also wore her hair in a bun at the nape. This could have made it hard to tell if she was a man or a woman at night. In conclusion, those are the clues that show Berthe Erica Crow could have murdered Samuel W. Westing in his house.
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DeleteI strongly agree with you that Crow is the murderer of Mr. Westing. I would also like to add onto your thinking. In the text, Raskin states that Crow is guilty of something. She could be guilty of murdering Mr. Westing. She could be the murderer.
1.One clue that I think is a red herring is the clue about Crow turning away in silence when she heard about the death of Mr. Westing. I think that clue is added because the author wants you to suspect that crow is the murderer. She could have turned away in silence because she could have had a close relationship with Mr. Westing and was sad to hear that he was dead. Although, the author writes, "If he's truly dead, then he's roasting in hell. We are sinners all"(Raskin pg.12). I think that he probably did something to Crow before he died and she held a grudge rather than forgetting about it, but she was still sad. In conclusion, the clue about Crow is a red herring.
ReplyDelete2.The clue that I do not think is a red herring is the clue about Mr. Westing being the uncle of all the tenants. However, the tenants looked at each other peculiarly when he stated that they were his nieces and nephews in the will. Everyone traded appalled looks because they were all different races.
According to the text Raskin writes, "Today I have gathered together my nearest and dearest, my sixteen nieces and nephews"(pg. 29). This shows that they could all be related. Also they could be different races because Westing could have had different wives that had children and their children had children and grew up to be all the sixteen protagonists in this novel.
Harley I agree with you. I agree with you because just because you are a different race you can still be related. Also I agree with you about the sixteen protagonists being in his family.
DeleteAccording to my clue tracker, I have identified and shrewd clue of who may have afflicted Sam Westing. In my clue tracker it says that Crow is guilty of something (34). According to the text, it says "Why were they watching her? Did they think she killed Windy? Could the guilty know her guilt?"Crow know she was guilty of something. Therefore, I think that this may be a clue.
ReplyDeleteAndrew I respectfully disagree with you because Crow is religious and usually religious people know what a sin is. Most likely they will be guilty of something because if your religious you would probably do confession. When you make your confession you confess a sin. Like when you made your fist holy communion you had to confess something that you did that was wrong. This means Crow might just be telling people that they need religion in there house or this is what happens, one is a killer. Crow might just be trying to play dirty and scare the killer so they would stand up and confess right there. In my opinion this clue is a red herring.
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ReplyDeleteMy clue tracker and the text says, "There is no such person as Barney Northrup."(1) Then if there is no such person as Barney Northrup who sold six apartments to the sixteen heirs of Sam Westing and who signed the letters "Your servant, Barney Northrup"? Or like Erin said is class "Maybe someone is disguised as a person named Barney Northrup,".
ReplyDeleteIn my clue tracker, I have identified a notion that could possibly a red herring. I think that Theo starting a game of chess with an unknown person is one of the many misleading clues. Raskin writes, "Theo wondered over to the chess table to admire the finely carved pieces. Someone had moved a white pawn. Okay, he'll play along. Theo defended the opening with a black knight," (31). Maybe one of the other heirs decided to randomly move a chess piece just for the fun of it. Perhaps the unknown opponent thought the same thought as Theo and just played along. In my opinion, this may not be important, but it also could be because Sam Westing was a master of chess.
ReplyDeleteA notion that could be a genuine clue is the fact that Raskin hints to the reader that Crow has done something terrible, and she carries the heavy weight of guilt. Raskin describes, "Why where they watching her? Did they think she killed Windy? Could the guilty know her guilt?" (34). This quote shows that Crow has feelings of suspicion sent towards her by the other heirs. Although readers do not know what Crow is exactly guilty of, we can infer it has something to do with the other tenants and possibly Sam Westing. I predict this because she hints that the other tenants might know of the wrongful act, because she has probably has the act in the presence of the other heirs. Therefore, I think that the statement of Crow having done an action of guilt is a genuine clue.
I respectfully disagree with you when you said that Theo playing a game of chess wih somebody unknown is a red herring because maybe the mistake, burglar, or bomber was playing chess with him. If you were a burglar, or bomber, or even a mistake, it would be pretty easy to get around unoticed.
DeleteErin, I agree with you because the chess game was peculiar and it could have been a red herring, but since chess was important to Westing, it could lead on to a bigger issue.
DeleteAshley, can you clarify how quickly a bomber, burglar, or the mistake can move around has to do with my claim?
DeleteIn the novel, I think one red herring is when Barney Northrup says to Sydelle Pulaski " You're really lucky,'Barney Northrup said for the sixth and last time. 'There's only one apartment left, but you'll love it.It was meant for you."{Raskin page 4}. I think this is a red herring because Barney Northrup also says this to the Wexlers {the first appointment of the day}.
ReplyDeleteThis is a red herring because if you are the first appointment how can there be only one apartment left? Also the Wexlers moved in so why is there room for Sydelle Pulaski? Therefore, I think that it is a red herring.
I think a real clue is when Mr. Westing says in his will "My life was taken by one of you.{page 29}. I think this is not a red herring because this was the turning point in the book wear Westing finally starts the Westing game. In conclusion, I think this is a real clue.
In the novel one of the red herring is when Barney Northrup said " There is only one apartment left" to all the attendances when they had an appointment. (Raskin Page 4) I believe that is red herring because if there was one appointment that day how already there is one apartment left at the Westing house.
ReplyDeleteA clue is when Mr. Westing wrote the will and said " These are the rules
1. Number of players : 16 divided into 8 pairs.
2. Each pair will receive $ 10,000.
3. Each pair will receive on set of clues
4. Forfeits:If any player drops out the partner must leave the game. The pair must return the money.
5. Players will be given two days notice of the next session. Each pair may then give one answer.
6. Object of the game: to win. "
(Raskin Page 32) This is a clue because it said in the text.
By reading, The Westing Game (itallics) I think one red herring is on page 38,"'Purple waves,'"Sandy joked with a wink at Turtle.
ReplyDeleteMrs. Wexler uttered a cry of recognition and changed the order of two of her clues."(Raskinpg.38) I think this is a red herring because Mrs. Wexler probably had heard the story from the other tenants, and got a little scred when Sandy mentioned the terriffing story. This could have happened, or she had heard the story from another tenant, and when Sandy mentioned 'purple waves', she could have figured something out, and ran to get her clue to figure something else out so she could wind a windfall of money.
In my clue tracker, I have identified many clues to lead up to the final solution to figure out who killed Mr. Westing. According to the text, we can identify a clue when Raskin describes that Crow had a sore shin. This is a clue because in the novel Raskin writes, "Someone, ( he could not tell if the person was a man or a women), came out of the shadows on the lawn, unlocked the french doors,and disappeared into the Westing House. Someone with a limp."(9) This is a clue because we can predict that Crow could be limping into the Westing house because she had a sore shin. Also, according to the text, Raskin writes that Crow has her hair up in a bun. In the text, Raskin writes that the protagonist could not tell if the person is a man or a women. Usually, when you are far away, someone with a bun can not be identified as a man or a women. I think that these clues can lead up to identify that Crow is the murderer.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you Daniella that Crow might have been inside the Westing house and I also have mixed thoughts. Other people were limping too like, Sydelle Pulaski. She could have worn a bun on that day if it was her. Also it could be a man as well. I also think that Crow was in there too because she always wear a bun and it is hard to tell if it was a man or a woman.
DeleteDaniella, I respectfully disagree with you because when Chris saw the limper walk into the Westing house Crow was getting foot surgery.
DeleteOne of the clues in my clue tracker is that Sydelle Pulaski was wearing a dress that has purple waves on it. This is significant becuse a boy went in the Westing house and when he came out, all he said was" Purple Waves". Accordding to the text it says,"Her exaggerated hips were even more exaggerated by the wavy stripes of white on her purple dress. Purple waves Turtle thought". (27) I believe this is a red herring because I think this is a coincidence tht she is wearing a dress that has purple waves on it. AlsoTurtle thought of seeing purple waves,but she didn't. In conclusion, I believe is a red herring.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you because it doesn't mean that if you are wearing purple waves it might just me a coincidence. And I am sure that the purple waves were bigger.
DeleteIn My clue tracker, I wrote that the text said that Sam Westing will cast his ashes to the four winds. I find this significant because the four winds are North, South, East, and West. There is Sam Westing, Barney Northrup, Sandy McSouthers, and Eastman. I think if someone goes to them they will get the windfall.
ReplyDeleteThe red herring could be that when J.J. Ford said that she owes Westing something. I think this because maybe Raskin could make us think that she had something to do with his death.
One clue that I think is a red herring is that Sydelle Pulaski was wearing purple waves on her dress. I think this is a red herring because in the text, Raskin wrote that nobody payed attention to her, so maybe she just wanted the attention. According to the text, Raskin states, "But nobody paid attention to Sydelle Pulaski," (page 15). Wearing purple waves on her dress is significant because one day, some kids decided to go on into the Westing house, and when a kid came out, he was saying, "Purple waves, Purple waves." I think Raskin just wants us to think and make us over analyze so that some clues can throw us off track. Therefore, I think that when Sydelle Pulaski was wearing purple waves, it could possibly be a red herring.
ReplyDelete1.In the book "Westing Game," I think the clue we should focus on Is the word "plain" because I think it is a red herring. What does the word "plain" have to do with the death of Mr.Westing? I'm predicting that this word is a red herring.
ReplyDeleteIn Chapter 7 of "Westing Game, " Denton Deere does not understand his clue card. He says, "This makes no sense. Denton Deere complained." ( p. 36) This evidence supports that the character in the book thinks his clue ridiculous clue and does not know what it means. furthermore, this makes me believe that the word "plain is a misleading clue or a red-herring.
In my clue tracker, I wrote that Sydelle wants to be noticed. According to the text, "Flora Baumbach was the only heir to cry. Crow was the only one to pray. By the time Sydelle Pulaski could assume a pose of reverence,the minute was up. This shows,that Sydelle wants attention. This might be a red herring because if Sydelle wants to be noticed nobody will think she is the murder because they are trying to find the murder in the game, and the murder should not want to be noticed. In conclusion, Sydelle might be trying to hide the fact she is the murder because she is pretending to want attention.
ReplyDeleteAn example of a red herring is when Sydelle Pulaski was wearing purple waves. This is a red herring because she wants to get noticed by people since she is unpopular. She started to pretend wearing crutches to look like she broke her legs and avoiding the carpet when she walks so she can get noticed by the other people. In the text it says, " Her exaggerated hips were even more exaggerated by the wavy stripes of white on her purple dress." This scene shows that she is making herself get noticed. In conclusion, Sydelle Pulaski wants herself to get noticed and I believe that this is a red herring.
ReplyDeleteI respectful dissagree with you because Sydelle Pulaski might have been the killer and when one boy was saying purple waves
DeleteIn my clue traker I put sydelle is most likely the killer. Acording to the text it said one came runing out of the house and started saying purple waves so she might be the killer
ReplyDeleteI strongly agree with you Marc because Sydelle always complains
Deleteabout how much know one ever pays attention to her. So all her rage goes into killing other people
My clue tracker has a a clue that says that there are four people that have either a first or last name which contains either North, South, East or West it caught my eye and made me start thinking that these people have the best clues to killer. According to Raskin "Does that mean murder?"he asked the heir on his right.(pg.29) I think that this quote is significant because it seems like Sandy has something to do with the murder or at least know who did it because he is really surprised that Mr.Westing was murdered. Usually if you find out someone is murdered you would be sad and cry not ask people if he was actually murdered. I think by asking people if Sam Westing was murdered that it will draw the suspicion away from him. In my opinion this is a real clue.
ReplyDeleteIn Ellen Raskin's novel, there are many clues, and possibly red herrings, as the novel is a mystery. One of the clues that I noticed in the novel, I believe to be true, but it could be a red herring. The peculiar clue was that Theo Theodorakis was playing chess with an unknown opponent. I think it could have been Doug Hoo, Turtle Wexler, Otis Amber, or Sandy McSouthers trying to scare a tenant passing by the chess board, which would make it a red herring. I also believe that maybe the bookie had many identities and wrote the will and not Samuel W. Westing. He/she did it because they were playing the game and wanted to cheat to win all the money. I think they were trying to scare other tenets to make them drop out of the round, or possibly the game, giving the fraud/ bookie a better chance to win. Another clue that could possibly be a red herring is that Sydelle Pulaski was wearing "Purple Waves". According to the text, "Her exaggerated hips were even more exaggerated by the wavy stripes of white on her purple dress. Purple waves, Turtle thought." This could be significant because maybe Sydelle was in the house when the teenagers were in it. She was planning something to get noticed and she met the teenager. Sydelle saw the teen before he saw her and she set up a trap. She was sneaking around and the teen saw her, but only the dress. He got stunned by something in the house and he kept remembering the "Purple Waves". This could also be a red herring because that could have been the pattern on a wall or furniture in the room he got traumatized in.
ReplyDeleteIn the novel it says " The secretary kept to the side of the room, avoiding the Oriental rug that might cushion the thump of the purple striped crutch (page 26). When it said purple striped crutches people agreed with turtle about Sydelle being the person who kept repeating purple waves. I think that, that is a red hearing because Sydelle can say other words and not just purple waves. Just because Sydelle limps does not mean she was the limper who went in the Westing house on Halloween night.
ReplyDeleteOne of the clues from my clue tracker is, “There’s a limper in the Westing house, (Raskin 10). I predict that it’s an actual clue because Turtle Wexler has kicked a lot of people and they are all limping. One of them must be the murderer. This connects to one of my other clues which says, “He could not tell if the person was a man or women.” I think that this is an actual clue because it tells that if it were a woman she would have her hair up. I also think that these are actual clues because it gives clues to who was in the Westing house, and that might lead up to who the murderer is. Therefore my clues are actual clues.
ReplyDeleteA clue in the novel was when Sydelle Pulaski was wearing purple waves in the court. I know it was a clue because in the novel it was trying to hint at who was saying "purple waves" to Turtle. Now I know that Sydelle could have been the one saying "purple waves." I found it very interesting when Turtle said "purple waves" (Raskin 27) because that was a clue that Sydelle could possibly be the killer. Therefore, Sydelle Pulaski could have been inside of the house.
ReplyDeleteIn the novel it says, Crow turned away in silence when she heard that Samuel Westing died I thought this was a clue that she might of killed Samuel Westing because why would she turn away in silence when she found out he was dead. In the text it says" Murder? Does that Mean Westing was murdered?" Sandy asked the heir on his left. Crow Turned away in". This shows that she might have killed Westing,
ReplyDeleteAccording to the novel Westing Game, on page (9), it says, “purple waves “,”sandy helps him out, purple waves. “This evidence shows that this boy went into the Westing house and saw something scary with purple waves. I also think the scary thing that frightened him was not a thing it was a person named Sydelle Pulaski because when she went into the Westing house for the reading of the will it mentions her using a purple waved crutch. The text says,” Oriental rug that might cushion the thump of her purple striped crutch”. So in conclusion I think Sydelle Pulaski was the one scaring the kids inside the Westing house.
ReplyDeleteIn my clue traker I put Sydelle Pulaski was wearing purple waves on he dress. I think Sydelle Pulaski is the killer. Acording to the text it states "The other fella hasn't said but two words since. Something about purple.
ReplyDeleteSandy helped him out. purple waves.
OtisAber nodded sadly . Yep,thatpoor fellajust sits in the state asylum saying,'purple waves, 'purple waves' over and over again. So therefore I think Sydelle Pulaski is the killer.